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Conduct a comprehensive search through the Superintendence of Industry and Commerce (SIC) to ensure your trademark is available and conflict-free.
File the trademark application with SIC, including applicant details, goods or services classification, and payment of official fees.
The authority reviews the application to ensure compliance with legal and procedural requirements.
The trademark is published in the Industrial Property Gazette, making it available for public review.
Third parties may file opposition within 30 business days from the publication date.
SIC examines the trademark for distinctiveness, registrability, and potential conflicts with earlier rights.
If approved, the trademark is registered and a certificate of registration is issued.
The trademark remains valid for 10 years from registration and can be renewed indefinitely every 10 years.
Trademark registration in Colombia is managed by the Superintendence of Industry and Commerce (SIC). Applicants must correctly classify goods and services and meet all formal legal requirements.
The registration process generally takes 6 to 8 months if no oppositions or objections arise. Once approved, the trademark is protected across the entire Colombian territory.
Our professional legal team provides end-to-end assistance—from trademark search and filing to registration and renewal management in Colombia.
We stand out with a proven track record in delivering effective, affordable, and comprehensive IP solutions worldwide. Our strategic approach and thousands of satisfied clients underline our commitment to protecting your intellectual property.
Expert IP protection from a team with proven legal success.
Affordable IP solutions with no compromise on quality or service.
All-in-one services for IP registration, protection, and litigation.
We develop IP strategies aligned with your business growth goals.
Trusted by thousands for trademarks, patents, and design protection.
Trusted by startups, entrepreneurs, and enterprises worldwide — our intellectual property solutions ensure your innovations stay protected and your business thrives with confidence.
The trademark filing process was seamless and efficient. Their team handled everything with professionalism and delivered on time.
I was impressed by their knowledge of patent law. They simplified a very complex process and kept me updated throughout.
Excellent service with clear communication. They provided great advice for protecting my brand identity globally.
Their legal expertise in copyrights saved my creative work from infringement. Highly recommend for any IP needs.
Professional, reliable, and efficient. They managed my company’s entire IP portfolio with accuracy and care.
I appreciated their transparent pricing and straightforward advice. No hidden costs, just results.
Filing patents for my tech startup seemed impossible until I worked with them. Smooth, fast, and stress-free.
Their team’s dedication is unmatched. They treated my case with priority and delivered excellent outcomes.
I now feel confident expanding into international markets knowing my IP is fully protected. Outstanding service!
Legal advisory is a key to success for any company in order to protect your business and to take the best route for your company success.



Registering a trademark in Colombia is a vital step to protect your brand, products, or services in the local market. Trademarks in Colombia are registered through the Superintendence of Industry and Commerce (SIC), the government body responsible for intellectual property rights. Whether you are a local entrepreneur or a foreign business owner looking to expand into Colombia, we offer complete trademark services — including availability searches, filing, legal representation, and post-registration monitoring. Here are some frequently asked questions to help you understand the process and how we can assist.
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Start with a detailed trademark search to ensure your desired mark is unique and not already registered in Cambodia.
Submit your trademark application to the Ministry of Commerce with details of goods/services, usage intent, and priority claims if applicable.
The Department of Intellectual Property examines the application for compliance and conflicts with existing trademarks in Cambodia.
If any objections are raised, a response must be filed addressing DIP's concerns to proceed further.
Once approved, the trademark is published in Cambodia’s official IP Gazette for third-party awareness and possible oppositions.
Third parties have a 2-month period to oppose the registration. If unopposed, the process continues smoothly.
After the opposition period, DIP issues the official trademark registration certificate. Fees vary depending on classes registered.
Monitor your trademark to prevent infringement. Proper use and enforcement ensure long-term protection in Cambodia.
Trademarks in Cambodia must be renewed every 10 years to remain valid and enforceable.
To file a trademark in Cambodia, provide details about your goods or services and indicate whether the trademark is already in use or intended for future use. If you have a priority claim from another country, include the relevant application number and filing date.
The Cambodian trademark registration process usually takes 12–18 months depending on examination, oppositions, and office actions. Once approved, the trademark is published for opposition. If no opposition is filed, the Department of Intellectual Property issues the official certificate.
Official fees depend on the number of classes registered. Our professional services can handle the process end-to-end, including filing, monitoring, and certificate issuance.
We stand out with a proven track record in delivering effective, affordable, and comprehensive IP solutions worldwide. Our strategic approach and thousands of satisfied clients underline our commitment to protecting your intellectual property.
Expert IP protection from a team with proven legal success.
Affordable IP solutions with no compromise on quality or service.
All-in-one services for IP registration, protection, and litigation.
We develop IP strategies aligned with your business growth goals.
Trusted by thousands for trademarks, patents, and design protection.
Trusted by startups, entrepreneurs, and enterprises worldwide — our intellectual property solutions ensure your innovations stay protected and your business thrives with confidence.
The trademark filing process was seamless and efficient. Their team handled everything with professionalism and delivered on time.
I was impressed by their knowledge of patent law. They simplified a very complex process and kept me updated throughout.
Excellent service with clear communication. They provided great advice for protecting my brand identity globally.
Their legal expertise in copyrights saved my creative work from infringement. Highly recommend for any IP needs.
Professional, reliable, and efficient. They managed my company’s entire IP portfolio with accuracy and care.
I appreciated their transparent pricing and straightforward advice. No hidden costs, just results.
Filing patents for my tech startup seemed impossible until I worked with them. Smooth, fast, and stress-free.
Their team’s dedication is unmatched. They treated my case with priority and delivered excellent outcomes.
I now feel confident expanding into international markets knowing my IP is fully protected. Outstanding service!
Legal advisory is a key to success for any company in order to protect your business and to take the best route for your company success.



Protecting your brand is essential in today’s competitive market. If you’re planning to sell products or offer services in Cambodia, registering your trademark with the Ministry of Commerce, Department of Intellectual Property (DIP Cambodia) gives you exclusive rights to use your brand across the country. We offer complete trademark registration services in Cambodia — from trademark search and application filing to handling office actions and post-registration monitoring.
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Patent Cooperation Treaty
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Design Registration
Conduct searches in WIPO PATENTSCOPE, Espacenet, and other databases to assess worldwide novelty.
Prepare application meeting WIPO standards: claims, description, abstract, and drawings in English/French/Spanish.
File PCT application with a Receiving Office (RO) of your choice, covering 152+ member states with one submission.
An International Searching Authority (ISA) examines prior art and issues ISR + Written Opinion within 16 months.
Application published 18 months after priority date in PATENTSCOPE database, visible to all designated states.
Request Chapter II examination (additional fee) to amend claims and receive International Preliminary Report on Patentability (IPRP).
Within 30/31 months from priority date, enter national phases in selected countries with local filings and translations.
Each country’s patent office examines the application based on local laws (fees, translations, and substantive requirements vary).
Successful applications result in independent patents in each country (20-year term from filing date, subject to local renewals).
Key PCT Advantages:
Note: The PCT simplifies filing but does not grant international patents. You must still prosecute applications individually in each country during the national phase.
We stand out with a proven track record in delivering effective, affordable, and comprehensive IP solutions worldwide. Our strategic approach and thousands of satisfied clients underline our commitment to protecting your intellectual property.
Expert IP protection from a team with proven legal success.
Affordable IP solutions with no compromise on quality or service.
All-in-one services for IP registration, protection, and litigation.
We develop IP strategies aligned with your business growth goals.
Trusted by thousands for trademarks, patents, and design protection.
Trusted by startups, entrepreneurs, and enterprises worldwide — our intellectual property solutions ensure your innovations stay protected and your business thrives with confidence.
The trademark filing process was seamless and efficient. Their team handled everything with professionalism and delivered on time.
I was impressed by their knowledge of patent law. They simplified a very complex process and kept me updated throughout.
Excellent service with clear communication. They provided great advice for protecting my brand identity globally.
Their legal expertise in copyrights saved my creative work from infringement. Highly recommend for any IP needs.
Professional, reliable, and efficient. They managed my company’s entire IP portfolio with accuracy and care.
I appreciated their transparent pricing and straightforward advice. No hidden costs, just results.
Filing patents for my tech startup seemed impossible until I worked with them. Smooth, fast, and stress-free.
Their team’s dedication is unmatched. They treated my case with priority and delivered excellent outcomes.
I now feel confident expanding into international markets knowing my IP is fully protected. Outstanding service!
Legal advisory is a key to success for any company in order to protect your business and to take the best route for your company success.



The Patent Cooperation Treaty (PCT) is a global patent filing system administered by the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO). It allows applicants to seek patent protection in over 150 countries through a single international application, simplifying the process and deferring significant costs. While a PCT application does not itself result in an international patent, it streamlines the early filing, search, and examination process before entering national or regional phases. We assist inventors, companies, and patent attorneys with filing and managing PCT applications from start to finish.
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Utility Patent in UAE
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Patent Registration
Conduct a thorough patent search via the Ministry of Economy (MOE) and WIPO to ensure your invention is novel and unique.
Prepare a professional patent draft with detailed claims, description, background, and possible drawings.
Translate the application into Arabic as it is a requirement for patent filings in UAE.
Submit your utility patent application via the UAE Ministry of Economy’s online portal.
The MOE checks for compliance with formal requirements, fees, and documentation.
The patent undergoes technical examination to assess novelty, industrial application, and inventiveness.
Once accepted, the patent details are published in the UAE Official Gazette for public awareness.
After publication and no objections, a patent certificate is issued granting rights for 20 years.
Pay yearly renewal fees to maintain your patent rights in the UAE throughout the 20-year term.
In the UAE, a Utility Patent grants protection for inventions that are new, involve an inventive step, and are industrially applicable.
The process is overseen by the UAE Ministry of Economy, and the duration from application to grant typically takes 1 to 2 years depending on complexity.
We assist innovators in filing utility patents in UAE with professional search, drafting, translation, and legal support at every step.
We stand out with a proven track record in delivering effective, affordable, and comprehensive IP solutions worldwide. Our strategic approach and thousands of satisfied clients underline our commitment to protecting your intellectual property.
Expert IP protection from a team with proven legal success.
Affordable IP solutions with no compromise on quality or service.
All-in-one services for IP registration, protection, and litigation.
We develop IP strategies aligned with your business growth goals.
Trusted by thousands for trademarks, patents, and design protection.
Trusted by startups, entrepreneurs, and enterprises worldwide — our intellectual property solutions ensure your innovations stay protected and your business thrives with confidence.
The trademark filing process was seamless and efficient. Their team handled everything with professionalism and delivered on time.
I was impressed by their knowledge of patent law. They simplified a very complex process and kept me updated throughout.
Excellent service with clear communication. They provided great advice for protecting my brand identity globally.
Their legal expertise in copyrights saved my creative work from infringement. Highly recommend for any IP needs.
Professional, reliable, and efficient. They managed my company’s entire IP portfolio with accuracy and care.
I appreciated their transparent pricing and straightforward advice. No hidden costs, just results.
Filing patents for my tech startup seemed impossible until I worked with them. Smooth, fast, and stress-free.
Their team’s dedication is unmatched. They treated my case with priority and delivered excellent outcomes.
I now feel confident expanding into international markets knowing my IP is fully protected. Outstanding service!
Legal advisory is a key to success for any company in order to protect your business and to take the best route for your company success.



The United Arab Emirates (UAE) offers patent protection through the Ministry of Economy to encourage innovation and safeguard inventors' rights. Utility patents in the UAE cover new, innovative technical inventions that offer a practical solution to a problem. Both UAE nationals and foreign applicants are eligible to file, and protection extends for up to 20 years. Our team assists clients in preparing, filing, and prosecuting utility patent applications in compliance with UAE patent laws.
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Trademark Watch
Protect your brand around the clock—stay alert, stay secure.
Cost-Efficient Monitoring
Managing trademark renewals, filings, and watches through various agents can raise costs. ULE simplifies this with centralized, affordable services.
Premium Watch Services
We offer industry-leading trademark monitoring solutions at competitive rates—ensuring full protection without breaking your budget.
Weekly Infringement Tracking
We scan for similar or conflicting marks weekly and alert you to potential risks to ensure your regional and international protection.
Conflict Identification & Action Support
Our detailed reports identify conflicting applications and help you take prompt legal actions like oppositions or cancellations.
Platform Surveillance (Amazon, eBay, etc.)
Our service extends to online platforms like Amazon, eBay, Shopify, and more—protecting your mark across e-commerce and digital storefronts.
Proactive brand protection through strategic surveillance.
Avoid Costly Legal Conflicts
Ongoing trademark surveillance helps prevent legal battles by identifying issues early before they escalate.
Streamlined, Direct Service
We eliminate third-party intermediaries, offering fast, reliable, and direct protection solutions for your brand.
Weekly Trademark Database Scans
We monitor national and international databases every week to flag potentially infringing trademarks in real-time.
Detailed Market Insight Reports
Receive regular reports with actionable insights to help protect your brand identity and maintain exclusive rights.
Global Digital Monitoring
Our watch extends across social media, marketplaces, and global storefronts—keeping your trademark safe on every front.
We stand out with a proven track record in delivering effective, affordable, and comprehensive IP solutions worldwide. Our strategic approach and thousands of satisfied clients underline our commitment to protecting your intellectual property.
Expert IP protection from a team with proven legal success.
Affordable IP solutions with no compromise on quality or service.
All-in-one services for IP registration, protection, and litigation.
We develop IP strategies aligned with your business growth goals.
Trusted by thousands for trademarks, patents, and design protection.
Trusted by startups, entrepreneurs, and enterprises worldwide — our intellectual property solutions ensure your innovations stay protected and your business thrives with confidence.
The trademark filing process was seamless and efficient. Their team handled everything with professionalism and delivered on time.
I was impressed by their knowledge of patent law. They simplified a very complex process and kept me updated throughout.
Excellent service with clear communication. They provided great advice for protecting my brand identity globally.
Their legal expertise in copyrights saved my creative work from infringement. Highly recommend for any IP needs.
Professional, reliable, and efficient. They managed my company’s entire IP portfolio with accuracy and care.
I appreciated their transparent pricing and straightforward advice. No hidden costs, just results.
Filing patents for my tech startup seemed impossible until I worked with them. Smooth, fast, and stress-free.
Their team’s dedication is unmatched. They treated my case with priority and delivered excellent outcomes.
I now feel confident expanding into international markets knowing my IP is fully protected. Outstanding service!
Legal advisory is a key to success for any company in order to protect your business and to take the best route for your company success.



Registering your trademark is just the first step — protecting it is an ongoing process. At United Legal Experts, we offer professional trademark watch and monitoring services to help you detect and respond to potential infringement, similar filings, or unauthorized use of your brand. Stay ahead of threats and safeguard your brand reputation with our global monitoring solutions.
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Trademark, Designs & Patent Search & Filing Process in 165+ countries through a single platform
We search national and international databases to uncover existing patents related to your invention or product design.
Our team reviews similar filings to assess potential conflicts and patentability before you invest in a full application.
We use advanced keyword mapping and CPC/Locarno classification filtering for accurate and relevant results.
Receive a clear, professional report outlining key findings, risks, and recommendations for your next steps.
We help you understand whether your idea is novel and guide you toward utility or design patent registration.
Stay updated with new filings in your industry through continuous monitoring and timely alerts about potential conflicts.
We stand out with a proven track record in delivering effective, affordable, and comprehensive IP solutions worldwide. Our strategic approach and thousands of satisfied clients underline our commitment to protecting your intellectual property.
Expert IP protection from a team with proven legal success.
Affordable IP solutions with no compromise on quality or service.
All-in-one services for IP registration, protection, and litigation.
We develop IP strategies aligned with your business growth goals.
Trusted by thousands for trademarks, patents, and design protection.
Trusted by startups, entrepreneurs, and enterprises worldwide — our intellectual property solutions ensure your innovations stay protected and your business thrives with confidence.
The trademark filing process was seamless and efficient. Their team handled everything with professionalism and delivered on time.
I was impressed by their knowledge of patent law. They simplified a very complex process and kept me updated throughout.
Excellent service with clear communication. They provided great advice for protecting my brand identity globally.
Their legal expertise in copyrights saved my creative work from infringement. Highly recommend for any IP needs.
Professional, reliable, and efficient. They managed my company’s entire IP portfolio with accuracy and care.
I appreciated their transparent pricing and straightforward advice. No hidden costs, just results.
Filing patents for my tech startup seemed impossible until I worked with them. Smooth, fast, and stress-free.
Their team’s dedication is unmatched. They treated my case with priority and delivered excellent outcomes.
I now feel confident expanding into international markets knowing my IP is fully protected. Outstanding service!
Legal advisory is a key to success for any company in order to protect your business and to take the best route for your company success.



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Uniquely styled text-only logos that spell out a company’s name. Examples: Google, Coca-Cola, FedEx. Great for brand name recognition.
Logos made of initials or abbreviations. Examples: IBM, CNN, HBO. Ideal for long or complex brand names.
Icon-only logos that represent a brand visually. Examples: Apple’s apple, Twitter’s bird. Best for well-known brands.
Geometric or abstract shapes (e.g., Nike swoosh, Pepsi circle) used to represent a brand’s values or personality.
These combine a symbol and text to form a unified logo. For example, the Apple logo often appears with both the apple icon and the company name together. This style offers strong visual identity.
Logos with text inside symbols (like badges/seals). Examples: Starbucks, Harley-Davidson. Traditional and official feel.
Adaptable logos that change design or color (e.g., Google Doodles, MTV). Offers creative flexibility while keeping core elements.
We stand out with a proven track record in delivering effective, affordable, and comprehensive IP solutions worldwide. Our strategic approach and thousands of satisfied clients underline our commitment to protecting your intellectual property.
Expert IP protection from a team with proven legal success.
Affordable IP solutions with no compromise on quality or service.
All-in-one services for IP registration, protection, and litigation.
We develop IP strategies aligned with your business growth goals.
Trusted by thousands for trademarks, patents, and design protection.
Trusted by startups, entrepreneurs, and enterprises worldwide — our intellectual property solutions ensure your innovations stay protected and your business thrives with confidence.
The trademark filing process was seamless and efficient. Their team handled everything with professionalism and delivered on time.
I was impressed by their knowledge of patent law. They simplified a very complex process and kept me updated throughout.
Excellent service with clear communication. They provided great advice for protecting my brand identity globally.
Their legal expertise in copyrights saved my creative work from infringement. Highly recommend for any IP needs.
Professional, reliable, and efficient. They managed my company’s entire IP portfolio with accuracy and care.
I appreciated their transparent pricing and straightforward advice. No hidden costs, just results.
Filing patents for my tech startup seemed impossible until I worked with them. Smooth, fast, and stress-free.
Their team’s dedication is unmatched. They treated my case with priority and delivered excellent outcomes.
I now feel confident expanding into international markets knowing my IP is fully protected. Outstanding service!
Legal advisory is a key to success for any company in order to protect your business and to take the best route for your company success.



At United Legal Experts, we understand that a powerful brand starts with a unique, professional logo — and protecting it is just as important. That’s why we offer end-to-end services for clients who want to create a trademark-ready logo and secure it through official registration. Whether you’re starting a new brand or refreshing an existing one, we make sure your logo is both visually compelling and legally protected.
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Trademark, Designs & Patent Search & Filing Process in 165+ countries through a single platform
You will provide us with the draft of your patent along with the filing receipt of at least one country. (Applicable for Standard Package)
Alternatively, we will draft the patent and file it in the 1st country, then proceed with the PCT filing. (Professional Package)
Once your application is filed, you will receive a filing receipt along with the pending patent number for record and tracking.
Once the PCT is registered (around 18 months after filing), you must select the countries where you want to proceed with the application.
Your application will be forwarded to the chosen countries where the national stage examination will begin.
Each selected country will review your application, conduct examinations, and upon approval, your patent will be granted.
We stand out with a proven track record in delivering effective, affordable, and comprehensive IP solutions worldwide. Our strategic approach and thousands of satisfied clients underline our commitment to protecting your intellectual property.
Expert IP protection from a team with proven legal success.
Affordable IP solutions with no compromise on quality or service.
All-in-one services for IP registration, protection, and litigation.
We develop IP strategies aligned with your business growth goals.
Trusted by thousands for trademarks, patents, and design protection.
Trusted by startups, entrepreneurs, and enterprises worldwide — our intellectual property solutions ensure your innovations stay protected and your business thrives with confidence.
The trademark filing process was seamless and efficient. Their team handled everything with professionalism and delivered on time.
I was impressed by their knowledge of patent law. They simplified a very complex process and kept me updated throughout.
Excellent service with clear communication. They provided great advice for protecting my brand identity globally.
Their legal expertise in copyrights saved my creative work from infringement. Highly recommend for any IP needs.
Professional, reliable, and efficient. They managed my company’s entire IP portfolio with accuracy and care.
I appreciated their transparent pricing and straightforward advice. No hidden costs, just results.
Filing patents for my tech startup seemed impossible until I worked with them. Smooth, fast, and stress-free.
Their team’s dedication is unmatched. They treated my case with priority and delivered excellent outcomes.
I now feel confident expanding into international markets knowing my IP is fully protected. Outstanding service!
Legal advisory is a key to success for any company in order to protect your business and
to take the best route for your company success.



The Patent Cooperation Treaty (PCT) is an international treaty that enables inventors and companies to seek patent protection for their inventions in multiple countries through a single international application. Administered by the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO), the PCT system simplifies the process of applying for patents in over 150 countries, giving applicants time to evaluate their invention’s commercial potential before entering individual national phases.
We provide comprehensive PCT filing services — including drafting, filing, legal strategy, and national phase entry — to help you protect your innovation globally with ease and efficiency.
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